Wednesday, March 25, 2009

DON'T UNDERESTIMATE OUR LEADER


A MESSAGE FROM THE AUSTRALIAN POLY TANK CONCERNED
INDIVIDUALS GROUP TO THE AUSTRALIAN POLY TANK INDUSTRY

Don’t underestimate our leader.
He’s aiming for transparency –
and he shoots from the hip

“I want this all out in the open.
Total transparency.
If UV-degraded plastic can be
recycled produce me the evidence”

don matthews
leader APTCIG



“I admire your mission for the truth. Your action helps to wake us up to industry's tricks of the trade. ”
“I just wanted to say stick to your guns! I don't like to see the little guy being pushearound.” (Cassie)
“Congratulations on your working through this issue” (James Porteous Managing Editor ECOS)
“All the best in your endeavours” (Steve Payne Editor Organic Gardener)
“Keep up the good work” (Beck Lowe Cydonia Permaculture)
“Congratulations. You’re on the money” (Don Burke)
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EGR WATER BLOCKS INVESTIGATIONS

donmatthews7 studio adelaide
INFORMATION RELEASE 3

Polytank manufacturer
EGR Water blocks investigations into industry recycling claims by environment group APTCIG


Leader of the newly-formed environment group the Australian Poly Tank Concerned Individuals Group Mr Don Matthews believes the industry is misleading the Australian public on recycling. He says the “Can poly tanks be recycled? Yes, they can be completely recycled” claim by industry association CEO Leisa Donlan is simply not true.

According to Mr Matthews the principles of chemistry say recycling of UV-degraded plastic is not possible and he has evidence from Research and Development of a major manufacturer to support this.

He wants to ask questions of the Managing Director of EGR Water but the General Manager, Mr Stephen Clark is denying access. Ms Donlan has advised Mr Clark to have nothing to do with Mr Matthews who “is involved in legal action with the Association” (Association of Rotomoulders Australia ARMA)

Ultraviolet light in sunlight breaks down plastic making it brittle, fall apart and unable to be remoulded and recycled. Millions of tanks unrecyclable tanks will eventually be lying around creating an environmental problem. What is the industry planning to do with them? Landfill?


birth of origin donmatthews7 studio Adelaide 25 march 2009
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Supporting Evidence

From Hynes, Wayne
To Don Matthews
cc"Clarke, Stephen"
dateThu, Mar 5, 2009 at 3:03 PM
subject RE: EGR MD details request
mailed-byegr.com.au

Hi Don,
Please make contact with Stephen Clarke. He is waiting for your communication. Stephen reports to the MD.

Regards
Wayne
WAYNE HYNES
State Sales Manager
Rotational Moulding Division
106-110 Lambeck Drive, Tullamarine, Melbourne,
Victoria 3043 Australia
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From Don Matthews
donmatthews7@gmail.com tosclarke@egr.com.au
ccLeisa Donlan
bcc"Hynes, Wayne"
date Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 11:50 AM
subject don matthews to stephen clarke - I wish to communicate direct with the MD
mailed-bygmail.com

From Don Matthews APTCIG
To: Stephen Clarke General Manager EGR Water

Dear Stephen,
I seem to be having trouble getting through to the top. I wish to communicate direct with the Managing Director of EGR. Could you please ask them to touch base.

Thanks
Don Matthews
Leader APTCIG
Australian Poly Tank Concerned Individuals Group
"an edgy group with an edgy leader"
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from ARMA Reception
toDon Matthews
dateFri, Mar 6, 2009 at 12:14 PM
RE: don matthews to stephen clarke - I wish to communicate direct with the MD

Dear Stephen

This gentleman is currently involved in legal action with the Association. We strongly recommend you do not reply to him. He is in the habit of publishing edited versions of responses on his blog site.
http://thegreataustralianpolytankdebate.blogspot.com/

Best regards
Leisa Donlan
CEO
Association of Rotational Moulders Australasia Inc.
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From Don Matthews
donmatthews7@gmail.com toARMA Reception
ccLeisa Donlan ,
sclarke@egr.com.au
Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 4:47 PM
Re: don matthews to stephen clarke - I wish to communicate direct with the MD
mailed-bygmail.com
Copy to: undisclosed recipients

Dear ARMA reception webmasta,

Interesting move Leisa. Luck has it I think I can make some mileage out this one. Will give it to my boys at 'triple m' to play around with. They're good at coming up with 'interesting' counter-moves. Will be back shortly with my countermove.

Cheers,
Don

PS Stephen - how you move is up to you. I have no issue with you. All you need to do is pass my message on to the MD and email me back that you have done so. In this way you will be protecting yourself by not becoming involved. Leisa has given good advice in your not passing any opinion or blocking my moves. Just email me back to say you have passed on my message to the MD and I cannot touch you. I hope you follow my reasoning

Don
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From Don Matthews
donmatthews7@gmail.com to sclarke@egr.com.au
ccLeisa Donlan ,
"trent. farleigh"
bcc"Hynes, Wayne"
dateTue, Mar 10, 2009 at 4:28 PM
subjectdon matthews to stephen clarke
mailed-bygmail.com

From: Don Matthews APTCIG
To: Stephen Clarke General Manager EGR Water

Dear Stephen,

I have not received confirmation back from you that my email has been forwarded on to your Managing Director. I will wait until close of business on Thursday 12 March. If I have not heard back by then I will interpret your actions as trying to block my investigations into industry recycling claims and include your name along with Leisa Donlan and Trent Farleigh and circulate widely.

Don Matthews.
APTCIG
Australian Poly Tank Concerned Individuals Group
"seeking open and honest answers to open and honest questions"
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From Don Matthews
donmatthews7@gmail.com tosclarke@egr.com.au
ccLeisa Donlan ,
"trent. farleigh"
dateMon, Mar 23, 2009 at 4:50 PM
subjectRe: don matthews to stephen clarke
mailed-bygmail.com

To: Stephen Clarke General Manager EGR Water
From: Don Matthews APTCIG
Copy to : undisclosed recipients

Dear Stephen,

On March 10 asked you to forward my email requesting your Managing Director to make contact with me. I wish to ask questions regarding poly tank recycling claims.
I informed you that if my request was not passed on and confirmation received by close of business on 12 March I would interpret your actions as an attempt to block my investigations and circulate this fact widely. It seems your ARMA association CEO Leisa Donlan advised you not to communicate with me and it would appear you have taken her advice over mine. So be it.

In doing so, however, you have left yourself wide open to attack by myself and members of my group. You now join my list of Leisa Donlan and Trent Farleigh as blocking APTCIG investigations into industry recycling claims. I take no responsibility for any consequences which may now result from your decision.

Don Matthews.
APTCIG
Australian Poly Tank Concerned Individuals Group
"we're aiming for transparency - and we shoot from the hip"
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Looking for the most positive way forward
with the least amount of pain

Tuesday, March 10, 2009

AAA Water Tanks

Gepps Cross SA
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fromDon Matthews <donmatthews7@gmail.com>tosales@aaawatertanks.com.au
Mar 11, 2009 subject Recycling UV degraded poly tank mailed-bygmail.com

Dear AAA Water Tanks,


I notice you manufacture rainwater tanks and wondered if you could help me. I am thinking of buying a poly tank but would like to know if it can be recycled when it eventually is broken down by sunlight. I would like to think I was doing the right thing by the environment in buying a tank which can be recycled at the end of its life.

Thanks for your help
Don Matthews
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fromAAA Water Tanks <sales@aaawatertanks.com.au>toDon Matthews <donmatthews7@gmail.com> Mar 11, 2009 RE: Recycling UV degraded poly tank

Thank you Don for your enquiry, I have been in contact with our suppliers and I do believe you have the relevant information already sent to you by our suppliers.Thank you once again


Pam
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from Don Matthews <donmatthews7@gmail.com>toAAA Water Tanks <sales@aaawatertanks.com.au>Mar 23, 2009 Re: Recycling UV degraded poly tankmailed-bygmail.com

Hi Pam,


Could you please tell me the name and email address of your Managing Director? I would like to ask some questions.

Thanks,
Don Matthews
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Mar 24, 2009 RE: Recycling UV degraded poly tank

Hi Don,

We are a family business, who distribute rainwater tanks and therefore we do not have this kind of management structure. I therefore suggest that if this is a matter of concern to you, you should contact manufacturers who may potentially have this information, rather than distributers.

Simon
Manager
AAA Water Tanks

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Don Matthews <donmatthews7@gmail.com>toAAA Water Tanks <mailto:sales@aaawatertanks.com.au%3EMar 24, 2009 Re: Recycling UV degraded poly tankmailed-bygmail.com

Hi Simon,


I am a little perplexed with what you and Pam are saying. Had a look on your website and you seem to stock two brands of tanks - Downpour and Polymaster. What is Pam meaning by "I have been in contact with our suppliers and I do believe you have the relevant information already sent to you by our suppliers" ? I don't recall receiving any information from these manufacturers?

From what I understand of your advertising you sell tanks direct to the public rather than a middleman distibuter? Is this right? If you are a retailer I would have thought it was your responsibility to answer and advise the public on any question regarding the products you sell. If you don't know whether poly tanks can be recycled at the end of their life when degraded by sunlight I would have expected you to ask the manufacturer and get back to me. This is how it normally works.

Look forward to hearing from you and what the manufacturers Downpour and Polymaster are advising.

Regards
Don Matthews
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Rainhaven Water Systems

Manufacturer
Head office ?
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from Don Matthews <donmatthews7@gmail.com>tosales@rainhaven.com.au
Mar 11, 2009 RE Recycling UV degraded poly tank mailed-bygmail.com

Dear Rainhaven Water Systems,


I notice you manufacture rainwater tanks and wondered if you could help me. I am thinking of buying a poly tank but would like to know if it can be recycled when it eventually is broken down by sunlight. I would like to think I was doing the right thing by the environment in buying a tank which can be recycled at the end of its life.

Thanks for your help
Don Matthews
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fromSales at Rainhaven <sales@rainhaven.com.au>toDon Matthews <donmatthews7@gmail.com>Mar 12, 2009 RE: Recycling UV degraded poly tank mailed-byrainhaven.com.au

Hello Don


Yes the tanks are recyclable. We cut up & recycle tanks that don’t pass quality control & thought they cannot be used again to make tanks they are used for buoys & other products.

Kind Regards,
Peter Willson
Sales DeptRainhaven™ Water Systems
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fromDon Matthews <donmatthews7@gmail.com>toSales at Rainhaven <sales@rainhaven.com.au>
Mar 12, 2009 Re: Recycling UV degraded poly tank mailed-bygmail.com

Dear Peter,


Thankyou for your reply but I don't know why you are telling me manufacturing rejects are recycled? that's not what I was asking. I thought my question was clear that I "would like to know if it can be recycled when it eventually is broken down by sunlight". You seem to have missed this?

Don Matthews
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Master Tanks (manufacturer SA)

Manufacturer
Marleston SA
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fromDon Matthews <donmatthews7@gmail.com>toAdmin@mastertanks.com.au
Mar 11, 2009 subject Recycling UV degraded poly tank mailed-bygmail.com

Dear Master Tanks,


I notice you manufacture rainwater tanks and wondered if you could help me.
I am thinking of buying a poly tank but would like to know if it can be recycled when it eventually is broken down by sunlight. I would like to think I was doing the right thing by the environment in buying a tank which can be recycled at the end of its life.


Thanks for your help
Don Matthews
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fromMaster Tanks toDon Matthews date Mar 11, 2009 Re: Recycling UV degraded poly tank

Hi Sir ,

Yes all of our polyethylene tanks can be recycled
Is there something else we can help you with.

Regards David
MASTER TANKS
230 RICHMOND RD
MARLESTON
PH (08) 84439061
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Post closed
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Maxiplas

Manufacturer
Regency Park SA
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fromDon Matthews <donmatthews7@gmail.com>todamien@maxiplas.com
Mar 11, 2009 subject Recycling UV degraded poly tank mailed-bygmail.com

Dear Damien,


I am wondering if the poly tanks Maxiplas manufacture can be recycled when eventually broken down by sunlight. I would like to think I was doing the right thing by the environment in buying a tank which can be recycled at the end of its life.

Thanks for your help
Don Matthews
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fromDamien Hough <damien@maxiplas.com> to Don Matthews <donmatthews7@gmail.com>
Mar 11, 2009 Re: Recycling UV degraded poly tank

Hi Don


Thanks for your enquiry.To answer your question, We use 100% food grade polyethylene with a UV stabiliser. Once a tank has reached its shelf life, the material is granulated, treated and we have various applications that this recycled material can be utilised in. It is very comforting to get feedback from consumers who are passionate and aware of our environment such as yourself.

Kind regards
Damien Hough
Sales/Logistics
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fromDon Matthews <donmatthews7@gmail.com>toDamien Hough <damien@maxiplas.com>Mar 11, 2009 Re: Recycling UV degraded poly tank mailed-bygmail.com

Hi Damien,

Just to clarify, when the tank reaches its shelf life in 15+ years it will have been degraded by UV in sunlight, become brittle and fall apart, just like a (non-stabilized) plastic watering can does when left out in the sun. Your reply suggests you already do this with UV-degraded plastic. I can understand non-degraded plastic being recycled, we already do this, but what about degraded plastic? I am a bit puzzled because poly tanks are going to take 15+ years before they get to the stage where they need to be recycled. I don't really know how can say a 15+year-old degraded plastic tank can be recycled when this is in the future? Is there any evidence to that degraded plastic can be recycled? Guess you'd need a tank which has been around for a long time. Can you shed any light on this as I am still having a problem with it. It is important because we are going to eventually end up with millions of degraded tanks in the environment and if it turns out they can't be recycled we're going to have a huge environmental problem.

Regards,
Don

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The Rainwater Tank Centre

Supplier
Melrose Pk SA
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from Don Matthews <donmatthews7@gmail.com>torwtc@internode.on.net
Mar 11, 2009 subject Recycling UV degraded poly tank mailed-bygmail.com

Dear Rainwater Tank Centre,

I notice you sell rainwater tanks and wondered if you could help me.
I am thinking of buying a poly tank but would like to know if it can be recycled when it eventually is broken down by sunlight. I would like to think I was doing the right thing by the environment in buying a tank which can be recycled at the end of its life.


Thanks for your help
Don Matthews
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The Tank Broker

Supplier
Adelaide SA
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fromDon Matthews <donmatthews7@gmail.com>tothetankbroker@gmail.com
Mar 11, 2009 subject Recycling UV degraded poly tankmailed-bygmail.com

Dear Tankbroker,

I notice you sell rainwater tanks and wondered if you could help me. I am thinking of buying a poly tank but would like to know if it can be recycled when it eventually is broken down by sunlight. I would like to think I was doing the right thing by the environment in buying a tank which can be recycled at the end of its life.

Thanks for your help
Don Matthews
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Monday, March 9, 2009

m2raintanks

Supplier
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fromDon Matthews <donmatthews7@gmail.com>toinfo@m2raintanks.com.au
Tue, Feb 24, 2009 subject Recycling UV degraded poly tank mailed-bygmail.com

Dear m2raintanks,


I notice you supply a large range of poly rainwater tanks and wondered if you could help me. I am thinking of buying a poly tank but would like to know if it can be recycled when it eventually is broken down by sunlight. I would like to think I was doing the right thing by the environment in buying a tank which can be recycled at the end of its life.

Thanks for your help
Don Matthews
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no response
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from Don Matthews <donmatthews7@gmail.com>toinfo@m2raintanks.com.au
Mar 4, 2009 Re: Recycling UV degraded poly tankmailed-bygmail.com

I have not heard back from you. Is there a problem?


Don
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no response
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from Don Matthews <donmatthews7@gmail.com>toinfo@m2raintanks.com.au
Mar 10, 2009 Re: Recycling UV degraded poly tank mailed-bygmail.com

Dear m2tanks

I have emailed you twice about recycling poly tanks. Why haven't I received a reply???

Don Matthews
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fromDon Matthews <donmatthews7@gmail.com> toinfo@m2raintanks.com.au
Mar 23, 2009 Re: Recycling UV degraded poly tankmailed-bygmail.com

To: Managing Director m2raintanks
From: Don Matthews

Dear Sir/Madam,

As an environmentally concerned member of the public I have asked on three occasions (24 Feb, 4 March, 10 March) for advice on whether the poly tanks you sell can be recycled at the end of their life when degraded by sunlight. Could you please explain why I am being ignored and not given the courtesy of an acknowledgement or reply?

Don Matthews
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Thursday, March 5, 2009

TRACKING DOWN EGR's MD

From: Don Matthews [mailto:donmatthews7@gmail.com] 6 March 2009 To: sclarke@egr.com.auCc: Leisa Donlan
Subject: don matthews to stephen clarke - I wish to communicate direct with the MD

From Don Matthews APTCIG
To: Stephen Clarke General Manager EGR Water

Dear Stephen,

I seem to be having trouble getting through to the top. I wish to communicate direct with the Managing Director of EGR. Could you please ask them to touch base.

Thanks
Don Matthews
Leader APTCIG
Australian Poly Tank Concerned Individuals Group
"an edgy group with an edgy leader"
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Why I'm having trouble getting to the top
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27 Aug 2008
Leisa,
Do you have an email address for egr water ? Can't find it on their website.
Don

No response
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Dec 17 2008
To: Leisa Donlan CEO Association of Rotational Moulders Australasia
From: Don Matthews APTCIG

Leisa,
Please email names and email addresses for Managing Directors of the following manufacturers. I wish to ask some serious questions on recycling.

National Poly Industries
Ozpoly
EGR Water

If you choose not to release this information without a valid reason I will interpret your actions as a deliberate attempt to block my investigations into industry 'recycling' claims and will make every effort to make my view widely known.

Don Matthews
APTCIG
Australian Poly Tank Concerned Individuals Group
"seeking honest answers to open and honest questions"

No response. I am now proceeding to make my view widely known.
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from ARMA Reception <webmasta@rotationalmoulding.com>toDon Matthews <donmatthews7@gmail.com>
Mar 6, 2009 RE: don matthews to stephen clarke - I wish to communicate direct with the MD

Dear Stephen

This gentleman is currently involved in legal action with the Association. We strongly recommend you do not reply to him. He is in the habit of publishing edited versions of responses on his blog site. http://thegreataustralianpolytankdebate.blogspot.com/
Best regards
Leisa Donlan
CEO
Association of Rotational Moulders Australasia Inc.
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fromDon Matthews <donmatthews7@gmail.com>toARMA Reception <webmasta@rotationalmoulding.com>
ccLeisa Donlan <
ldonlan@rotationalmoulding.com>,sclarke@egr.com.au
Mar 6, 2009 subject Re: don matthews to stephen clarke - I wish to communicate direct with the MD

Copy to: undisclosed recipients

Dear ARMA reception webmasta,
It appears you have sent me ( whoever you may be) a copy of an email Leisa sent to Stephen. There was no
cc.donmatthews7@gmail.com so perhaps it was a slipup?

Anyhow.

Now I've got it I might as well bip in my bit.

Interesting move Leisa. Luck has it I think I can make some mileage, sorry, kilometreage, out this one. Will give it to my boys at 'triple m' to play around with. They're good at coming up with 'interesting' counter-moves. Will be back shortly with my countermove.

Cheers,
Don

PS Stephen - how you move is up to you. I have no issue with you. All you need to do is pass my message on to the MD and email me back that you have done so. In this way you will be protecting yourself by not becoming involved. Leisa has given good advice in your not passing any opinion or blocking my moves. Just email me back to say you have passed on my message to the MD and I cannot touch you. I hope you follow my reasoning Don
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Wednesday, March 4, 2009

POLLY TO MR DIXON TEAMPOLY

Polly to Mr Dixon Teampoly- rules of the debate

From: APTCIG HQ

To: Richie Dixon Managing Director Teampoly

Dear Mr Dixon,

My apologies for setting you up in a debate without giving you any idea of how the Debate is going to work. We have been so busy here at APTCIG HQ preparing our Peoples Court to do battle with your Association leader's Court of Law challenge that it completely slipped my mind. My apologies again.

The Debate is going to work like this:

All debaters must communicate through the Central Administrator (me). So, our leader Mr Matthews has challenged you with a question (twice it so appears) so now you must respond directly back to him. My job as Debate Adjudicator is to see the all the Rules of the Debate are followed (which reminds me I must get a list of rules together and distribute or there'll other debaters in a tizz wondering what to do).

Posted comments are reserved for the audience only and can be from any silly identifier like 'easily frustrated with idiots' or even 'anonymous'. You must come out into the open and meet your debater face to face. You cannot hide behind anonymity and hope to get away with it, not that I think you would of course.

The gathering audience is waiting for your response Mr Dixon. Please don't make them wait too long. They have a lot of other debates our leader is lining up they will be wanting to go to as well.

Yours in adjudicology,
Polly F Leen (Miss) ,BAdj U of M
Debate Adjudicator(cum APTCIG secretary)
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EGR Water

Manufacturer

Tullamarine VIC (rotational moulding division)
Carole Park, QLD

Chipping Norton NSW
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fromDon Matthews <donmatthews7@gmail.com>towhynes@egr.com.au
Thu, Mar 5, 2009 subject EGR MD details request mailed-bygmail.com

Dear Wayne,

Could you please give me the name and email address of EGR's Managing Director.

Thanks
Don Matthews
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fromHynes, Wayne <whynes@egr.com.au>toDon Matthews <donmatthews7@gmail.com>
cc"Clarke, Stephen" <
sclarke@egr.com.au>
Mar 5, 2009 RE: EGR MD details request
mailed-by egr.com.au

Hi Don,


Please advise the nature of your enquiry so that we can assist.
Regards
Wayne

WAYNE HYNES
State Sales Manager
Rotational Moulding Division
106-110 Lambeck Drive, Tullamarine, Melbourne, Victoria 3043 Australia
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fromDon Matthews <
donmatthews7@gmail.com>to"Hynes, Wayne" <whynes@egr.com.au>
Thu, Mar 5, 2009 Re: EGR MD details request mailed-bygmail.com

Just a simple request for name and email address. Is there a problem with this?


Don
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fromHynes, Wayne <whynes@egr.com.au>toDon Matthews <donmatthews7@gmail.com>
dateThu, Mar 5, 2009 : EGR MD details requestmailed-byegr.com.au


Hi Don,

I don't have the authority to give this information. Stephen Clarke is the General Manager and I suggest you contact him sclarke@egr.com.au

Regards
Wayne
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Don Matthews <donmatthews7@gmail.com>to"Hynes, Wayne" <whynes@egr.com.au>
Mar 5, 2009 : EGR MD details requestmailed-bygmail.com

Hi Wayne,

That's OK. If I want to communicate with the top person in EGR is it the Managing Director I need? Where, as General Manager, is Stephen in the organisation? Maybe he is high enough?

Don
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fromHynes, Wayne <whynes@egr.com.au>toDon Matthews <donmatthews7@gmail.com>
cc"Clarke, Stephen" <sclarke@egr.com.au>
Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 3:03 RE: EGR MD details request mailed-byegr.com.au

Hi Don

please make contact with Stephen Clarke. He is waiting for your communication.

Stephen reports to the MD.

Regards
Wayne
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fromDon Matthews <donmatthews7@gmail.com>tosclarke@egr.com.au
ccLeisa Donlan <ldonlan@rotationalmoulding.com>
Mar 6, 2009 don matthews to stephen clarke - I wish to communicate direct with the MD mailed-bygmail.com

From Don Matthews APTCIG
To: Stephen Clarke General Manager EGR Water

Dear Stephen,

I seem to be having trouble getting through to the top. I wish to communicate direct with the Managing Director of EGR. Could you please ask them to touch base.

Thanks
Don Matthews
Leader APTCIG
Australian Poly Tank Concerned Individuals Group
"an edgy group with an edgy leader"
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ARMA Reception <webmasta@rotationalmoulding.com> wrote:

Dear Stephen

This gentleman is currently involved in legal action with the Association. We strongly recommend you do not reply to him. He is in the habit of publishing edited versions of responses on his blog site. http://thegreataustralianpolytankdebate.blogspot.com/

Best regards
Leisa Donlan
CEO Association of Rotational Moulders Australasia Inc
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fromDon Matthews <donmatthews7@gmail.com>toARMA Reception <webmasta@rotationalmoulding.com>
ccLeisa Donlan <ldonlan@rotationalmoulding.com>,sclarke@egr.com.au
Mar 6, 2009 subjectdon matthews to stephen clarke - I wish to communicate direct with the MDmailed-bygmail.com

Copy to: undisclosed recipients

Dear ARMA reception webmasta,

It appears you have sent me ( whoever you may be) a copy of an email Leisa sent to Stephen. There was no cc.donmatthews7@gmail.com so perhaps it was a slipup?

Stephen - how you move is up to you. I have no issue with you. All you need to do is pass my message on to the MD and email me back that you have done so. In this way you will be protecting yourself by not becoming involved. Leisa has given good advice in your not passing any opinion or blocking my moves. Just email me back to say you have passed on my message to the MD and I cannot touch you. I hope you follow my reasoning Don
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fromDon Matthews <donmatthews7@gmail.com>tosclarke@egr.com.au
ccLeisa Donlan <ldonlan@rotationalmoulding.com>,"trent. farleigh" <Trent.Farleigh@vanglobe.com.au> Mar 10, 2009 subject don matthews to stephen clarke mailed-bygmail.com

From: Don Matthews APTCIG
To: Stephen Clarke General Manager EGR Water

Dear Stephen,

I have not received confirmation back from you that my email has been forwarded on to your Managing Director. I will wait until close of business on Thursday 12 March. If I have not heard back by then I will interpret your actions as trying to block my investigations into industry recycling claims and include your name along with Leisa Donlan and Trent Farleigh and circulate widely.

Don Matthews
APTCIG
Australian Poly Tank Concerned Individuals Group
"seeking open and honest answers to open and honest questions"
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Monday, March 2, 2009

Waterstore Poly Tanks VIC

Manufacturer
Marong VIC
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fromDon Matthews <donmatthews7@gmail.com>totanks@waterstore.com.au
Mar 3, 2009 Recycling UV degraded poly tank mailed-bygmail.com

Dear Waterstore,


I notice you manufacture rainwater tanks and wondered if you could help me. I am thinking of buying a poly tank but would like to know if it can be recycled when it eventually is broken down by sunlight. I would like to think I was doing the right thing by the environment in buying a tank which can be recycled at the end of its life.

Thanks for your help
Don Matthews
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fromDoug <doug@waterstore.com.au>toDon Matthews <donmatthews7@gmail.com>Mar 3, 2009 RE: Recycling UV degraded poly tank

Don,

We recycle scrap plastic and faulty tanks and it gets re ground and made into stock troughs, so its life is extended. Local recyclers would be more than pleased to re use your tank I would think

Kind Regards Doug Bell
Sales & Marketing Manager
WaterStore Poly Tanks
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A careful look at my question tells you I'm wanting to know about a tank which has been out in the sun for 15+years. This is not "scrap plastic and faulty tanks". Why would I be wanting to know about recycling factory scraps and faulty tanks? This should be standard practice anyhow. Once more the myth that degraded plastic can be recycled the same as non-degraded plastic is being perpetrated to keep a greenie customer happy. Have Waterstore ever tried to recycle degraded plastic? The response suggests a belief that degraded plastic can be recycled the same as non-degraded plastic.
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Global Poly Water Tanks

Manufacturer
Sorell, TAS
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fromDon Matthews <donmatthews7@gmail.com>tosales@globalcontract.com.au
Mar 3, 2009 Recycling UV degraded poly tank mailed-bygmail.com

Dear Global Poly Water Tanks,


I notice you manufacture rainwater tanks and wondered if you could help me.
I am thinking of buying a poly tank but would like to know if it can be recycled when it eventually is broken down by sunlight. I would like to think I was doing the right thing by the environment in buying a tank which can be recycled at the end of its life.


Thanks for your help
Don Matthews
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Tankworld Tasmania

Manufacturer
Kings Meadows, Tas
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fromDon Matthews <donmatthews7@gmail.com>tosales@tankworldtas.com.au
Tue, Mar 3, 2009 Recycling UV degraded poly tank mailed-bygmail.com

Dear Tankworld Tasmania,


I notice you manufacture rainwater tanks and wondered if you could help me. I am thinking of buying a poly tank but would like to know if it can be recycled when it eventually is broken down by sunlight. I would like to think I was doing the right thing by the environment in buying a tank which can be recycled at the end of its life.

Thanks for your help
Don Matthews
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fromSales <sales@tankworldtas.com.au> toDon Matthews
<donmatthews7@gmail.com>Mar 4, 2009 RE: Recycling UV degraded poly tank

Hi Don,


Poly is a recycleable product but we haven’t as yet had a poly tank break down to require recycling. All our poly tank have a 10 year warranty but Tankworld have been manufacturing them for around 30 years, so they do last considerably longer than their warranty period. We don’t actually have a projected lifespan for them as even the old ones seem to be lasting well.

Regards,
Dale
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Poly Water Tanks

Manufacturer
Fountain Dale N.S.W
Poly Water Tanks is owned by
Rotational Moulders PTY. LTD.
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from Don Matthews <
donmatthews7@gmail.com>toinfo@polywatertanks.com.au
Tues 3 Mar 3, 2009 Recycling of UV degraded poly tank mailed-bygmail.com

Dear Polywatertanks,

I notice you manufacture rainwater tanks and wondered if you could help me.
I am thinking of buying a poly tank but would like to know if it can be recycled when it eventually is broken down by sunlight. I would like to think I was doing the right thing by the environment in buying a tank which can be recycled at the end of its life.

Thanks for your help
Don Matthews
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frominfo@polywatertanks.com.au toDon Matthews <donmatthews7@gmail.com>
Mar 5, 2009 Re: Recycling of UV degraded poly tank

Hi


All our tanks are can be recycled.
Regards Chad Pace
Poly Water Tanks
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